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  1. Does front passenger seat fold forward/flat(ish?)

    Are there any trim levels where the front passenger seat folds forward and flat(ish, in case you need some additional hauling length? If you have one and can confirm a particular model DOES NOT, that's helpful too (I'm most interested in OR premium and Limited).
  2. 25% tariff on ALL imported autos announced

    It's not at all clear what portion of MSRP is subject to the tariff. The same complicated arguments and ways to game the system will come into play as when in past years there was a "buy American" push. The people who devised it had no clue how complicated and global the supply and assembly...
  3. Delivered! HYBRID 2025 Off-Road Premium - First Impressions Review, Photos & Plans

    It's not clear whether the equivalent of start-stop when you come to a stop in the hybrid is exactly the same as the Auto Start Stop (ASS) system for certain gas engine models. On the Tacoma, I believe several people confirmed that putting it into Sport mode blocks ASS from engaging. Undoing the...
  4. Delivered! HYBRID 2025 Off-Road Premium - First Impressions Review, Photos & Plans

    There's a legality question on these products since you're effectively tampering with the operation of an emissions device, which is illegal. Start/stop is primarily for emissions reduction; any mileage improvement is secondary. I don't know if anyone has ever been prosecuted for it; just...
  5. Delivered! HYBRID 2025 Off-Road Premium - First Impressions Review, Photos & Plans

    Nope. I don't know why people think implementing Auto Start-stop (ASS) was just a simple matter of adding a 0 mph detector and shutting off the engine and calling it done. There's way more to it than that. It required some degree of redesign of the starter system, the voltage regulation, the...
  6. Delivered! HYBRID 2025 Off-Road Premium - First Impressions Review, Photos & Plans

    Thanks for the review and photos. As far as the parking sensors, I think there's "standard" mode (i.e. progressively faster beeps as you approach objects relative to front or rear bumper sensors), and a mode in addition to that called PA with AB. So I think you just don't have that PA /AB mode...
  7. Prinsu Roof Rack (The Original) installed. Like the low profile features. Very sturdy!

    Thanks Jerry, for the photos. You lost me with "roam two (2) 95 L" I'm not sure what that is.
  8. Prinsu Roof Rack (The Original) installed. Like the low profile features. Very sturdy!

    Could you take a close up of a rail from a couple angles when you have a chance? Do the rails have a t-track or something similar where you can buy accessory hook loops that you slide to the position you want along a rail, to hook a ratchet strap or rope to and tighten the loop accessory down...
  9. Dealer "Hall of Shame" pricing (list 'em here)

    DCH Brunswick Toyota in NJ. $70472 ($10k markup) For an ORP. But wait, there's more: add to that $10k markup a $1000 doc fee!.
  10. Curb Weight, GVWR, Towing Capacity for 6th Gen 4runner (2025+)

    The industry standard definition of payload is: Payload = GVWR - curb weight That should be the factory payload on the driver's door jamb sticker, but it's not. They add a yellow "adjustment" sticker for the per-vehicle port/dealer installed options. Owners then have to further reduce the...
  11. Take or pass on this 2025 4runner TRD-OFF Road Premium Hybrid. Good price?

    You've left out important details. What's the line-item breakdown that gets from $61324 to $66400. Google says Delaware is one of a few states with no sales tax on new cars, so there seems to be perhaps thousands in dealer-installed bloat or profit-padding in that final number. But as others...
  12. Quality control issues? Can’t add rock rails and underside of 4Runner looks like a child’s art project

    Kind of ridiculous that the dealer service department didn't have a tap and die set somewhere in the shop, so they could thread it and install it. The stuff that looks like caulking is called seam sealer. It's used to fill in any panel seams to prevent rust at the seams, and is also used for...
  13. 2025 4Runner ALLOCATIONS LIST Spreadsheet (Gas & Hybrid) -- MSRP vs List Price, VIN, ETA, Ship Status, Dealer Hold Status đź“‹

    Thanks; really appreciate you doing this. What's the criteria for dropping off the list? Is this database somehow linked to Toyota's master database of completed sales and it removes that VIN and its data once the sale is entered? Or maybe each entry just stays on the list for a fixed # days and...
  14. “Ordering” not available nationwide

    Correct, Toyota doesn't do buyer-customized orders of factory options**. For the people saying they "ordered" a 4runner, it would be more accurate to say they "claimed" one that was already put into the allocation pipeline and assigned to a particular dealership. **If there is an incoming...
  15. Cargo area dimensions / measurements (with & without 3rd row) -- distance from seats to tailgate / liftgate

    Does the front passenger seat also fold back/forward, so you could, for example, carry a few long 8-10' 2x4's, or an 8' long narrow box, inside with the liftgate closed?
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