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  1. TheBat

    Nonhybrid i-Force engine getting up to 30 mpg on highway in the Tacoma

    Tundra and Sequoia appear to be rated the same. YMMV 🤣
  2. TheBat

    Bolt Pattern, Lug Nut Size, Hub Bore (6th Gen 4Runner 2025+)

    Not a perfect fit but I just checked my OEM 5th gen 4Runner 17" wheels in the garage and a 14mm stud will fit no problem. You can use rings to fill the gap on the hub (assuming that they are hub centric), lots of aftermarket wheels require them, but some guys don't like them.
  3. TheBat

    No Markup / No ADM Dealers @ MSRP Price for 2025 4Runner - List Them

    If you want a 4Runner for much less than MSRP, I suggest you bring a tent and a sleeping bag along with that sandwich. I hear you and it sounds like you are willing to wait a couple of years, which no doubt is what it will take.
  4. TheBat

    Trailhunter Hybrid Engine Turbo Noise

    Seems to me that the noise (at least the way I heard it in Kirk K's YouTube short) is coming directly from that high intake. I don't like the look of that intake or the sound that it makes. But some people may love both.
  5. TheBat

    Sliding Cargo Tray option for 6th gen 4Runner?

    I've always disrespected the sliding tray in my 2010 Trail Edition because it is such a pain to clean underneath. But I didn't realize that it is what gave me the completely flat floor with the rear seats folded that I love so much. So now after almost 15 years I've finally given the cargo...
  6. TheBat

    Hybrid Tacoma Pricing (U.S. / Canada), MPG and First Drive Reviews are out, including TRD Pro and Trailhunter

    And if, as I suspect, you are waiting 10-12 months to get one in your driveway, you've got some time to save some extra loonies and for interest rates to come down and save you some money.
  7. TheBat

    Hybrid Tacoma Pricing (U.S. / Canada), MPG and First Drive Reviews are out, including TRD Pro and Trailhunter

    At the same trim/model level the last gen 4Runner was at least $5k CAD more expensive than the comparable Tacoma. So, if the Tacoma Limited is $67K CAD plus the $5k 4Runner upcharge plus even more for a Platinum...
  8. TheBat

    2025 4Runner Order | Pre-Order | Deposit | Reservation | Waitlist -- List & Stats

    I'm guessing/predicting that only a very lucky few (if any) will be getting them before 2025. Would love to be wrong!
  9. TheBat

    Full time 4WD on Limited trim only?

    I can't speak for Jeep durability but in my 5th gen 4Runner with part-time 4WD, I just leave it in 4H in similar situations, did the same with previously owned Burb, Tahoe and Silverado all part-time 4wd. In cold weather even if it's dry the only time you NEED to be in 2wd is where tight...
  10. TheBat

    Full time 4WD on Limited trim only?

    From the press release .
  11. TheBat

    Full time 4WD on Limited trim only?

    I've heard a few references to Automatic limited slip, which is really just traction control. Not a bad system but not a limited slip differential.
  12. TheBat

    Full time 4WD on Limited trim only?

    The 5th Gen only had a rear locker in the Trail Edition/TRD OR and TRD Pro. The rest of the models including the full time 4wd Limited got an open rear diff with brake based traction control. Also the locker only worked in 4LO. This was more than fine for the freeway and Mall parking lot...
  13. TheBat

    Full time 4WD on Limited trim only?

    As I understand it the off road part time 4wd models lock the front and rear driveshafts whenever you are in 4HI or 4LO, so no need for a locker. It is why they bind when turning because they don't have an unlocked differential mode of operation. At least that is how it is in my 2010 4Runner...
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