Hybrid 4Runner MPG fuel economy should be ~25 MPG

[Gastan]

The hybrid 4Runner should get about 25 MPG (give or take a bit). If you caught this part of the TFL video, they accidentally disclosed the hybrid Tacoma's 25 MPG fuel economy figure (which is still under embargo). Seeing as how it's the same exact i-Force Max hybrid engine and TNGA-F platform, we should expect the hybrid 4Runner to get very similar MPG.

The differences would be vehicle weight and which model in particular we're talking about. The beefier tires and lift on Trailhunter for example would make a difference.

Here's the video portion...

 

[andim]

I wish they would already have a plug in hybrid. the legal framework in the US asks for that anyway and the popularity of the Jeep Wrangler Hybrid show that people would buy that.

 

[TSlop]

I did watch their truck MPG comparison video and I believe the Taco they bought got 26 mpg. I'm hoping the regular turbo 4 in the 4Runner gets similar to that. Sounds like the hybrid is more for power than fuel economy if the numbers are that similar.

 

[Bronconomore]

I would guess considering it is almost identical to the Landcruiser 2024, as shown on the comparison chart.
The MPG should be similar, which has been reported at 21/25/23 mpg. On comparable trims of course.

 

[H2O_Doc]

I wish they would already have a plug in hybrid. the legal framework in the US asks for that anyway and the popularity of the Jeep Wrangler Hybrid show that people would buy that.

Yep. 25 is a bit disappointing. I have a 4xe now and can do a ton of electric only driving despite the short range.

 

[jnsplace]

I would guess considering it is almost identical to the Landcruiser 2024, as shown on the comparison chart.
The MPG should be similar, which has been reported at 21/25/23 mpg. On comparable trims of course.

Hey Bronco, did you see what was literally confirmed on the LC forums?

The question now is, how close to LC or the Taco will be the 4runner lean?

 

[FourRunner]

I did watch their truck MPG comparison video and I believe the Taco they bought got 26 mpg. I'm hoping the regular turbo 4 in the 4Runner gets similar to that. Sounds like the hybrid is more for power than fuel economy if the numbers are that similar.

Unfortunately it doesn’t. I’ve been driving a regular 2.4 turbo (non hybrid) ‘24 Taco TRD Offroad (5’ bed, auto) for about a week around a city and some highway. I’ve left it in eco mode and not driving it hard I’m getting between 18-19 mpg for mixed driving. About 21 mpg highway only. That’s without the giant airdam installed. I’m hoping the 4Runner gets a slightly better mixed and highway mpg without the parachute effect caused by the bed/tailgate the Taco has. But that’s a longshot from the 25mpg estimated for the hybrid. Power is more than adequate in the non hybrid 2.4 turbo. Acceleration is not an issue whatsoever. My daily is a GR Corolla Circuit and the new Taco does not cross my mind as being too slow. My previous vehicle before the GR was a 2.7 V6 Bronco 4 door (non Sasquatch). The Taco isn’t as quick as that, but I do like the smoothness of the 8 speed transmission in the Taco versus the 10 speed in the Bronco. No clunking when shifting out of park like the Bronco 10 speed. 8 speed Toyota auto is buttery smooth at all times.

 

[Mrknowitall]

I’m getting between 18-19 mpg for mixed driving. About 21 mpg highway only.

Speed has a huge impact, and most of the TFL tests (I haven't watched the mpg comparison) are run at very conservative highway speeds. My Silverado can get 24 while running 55-65 (cool weather, I75, lots of construction) to as low as 18 (80mph on open freeway)

 

[jnsplace]

Because it kept coming up on the LC forums and it will likely come up here, I had to dig around a bit.

Tacoma forums had this reference to the Hybrid manual
https://www.tacoma4g.com/forum/thre...-trd-pro-and-trailhunter-specific-specs.3645/

and here's the screenshot of fuel requirements.

 

[beungood]

Yep. 25 is a bit disappointing. I have a 4xe now and can do a ton of electric only driving despite the short range.

How much does it cost to replace the battery in it?

 

[H2O_Doc]

How much does it cost to replace the battery in it?

Don't know, but I suspect it's expensive. It has an 8 or 10 year warranty. That said, one issue is having an old battery when you go to trade or sell. That can hurt resale quite a bit.

 

[Scott2373]

25 is fine by me. My 2018 F150 2.7L is rated, very optimistically at 22/Hwy. I've gotten more than that on very few occasions, but I've been averaging about 20 for the last 9 years between the two trucks I've had with that engine. My only real concern is what H20_Doc mentions above. I tend to keep vehicles for a while, so the battery needing replacement could become a very real concern for people that do the same.

 

[MJE]

Speed has a huge impact, and most of the TFL tests (I haven't watched the mpg comparison) are run at very conservative highway speeds. My Silverado can get 24 while running 55-65 (cool weather, I75, lots of construction) to as low as 18 (80mph on open freeway)

Does anyone have any experience with hybrid vehicles, does that mitigate the speed factor for mileage much at all? I’ve noticed the same thing. <75mph I can get up to 30mpg, exceeding the Hiway rating of 26 in mine. Now admittedly that takes ideal conditions. But 80mph is enough to drop it to 22 & stay there.

 

[andim]

Argh. Just was at my jeep dealer. Not really a competition to the 4 runner. But they have a plug in 2024 wrangler with rear locker, heated seats, rock rails, bf Goodrich off-road tires, hard top, all the basics for 61k MSRP for 55k. Right there to pick it up. I don’t understand why toyota is dragging their feet with the plug in models. And I suspect it will be an expensive trim that gets the plug in hybrid engine. At 55k for a capable wrangler plug in it will be hard to justify buying a 4Runner plug in if it ever comes out. Toyota should really get into this market quickly before it’s completely captured by jeep as you can get gran Cherokee plug ins for 60k as well. And they are a competitor for the 4Runner (if you don’t care that it’s a jeep).

 

[jnsplace]

I had to go look up the stats. Toyota has been a master at marketing lately, they seem to have a strong market share, so I had to ask myself. Would I buy a Grand Cherokee?
After reading a bit, I have to answer with a No.
Less power. Base model is 60K, and the reviews are not really that stellar....sorry.....

https://www.edmunds.com/jeep/grand-cherokee-4xe/