Manual Transmission Option???

[SpicyTaco2023]

Please Toyota build a reasonably priced 4runner with a manual transmission. I have had a few Toyota 4WD's over the years and finally hit the stage in life to be able to buy a brand new vehicle. I ordered a 2023 Tacoma TRD Off Road Premium and chose to wait for the manual transmission option. Now my wife is about ready to upgrade cars and she also wants a manual transmission. Does anyone know if Toyota would ever configure this new 6gen to include a manual transmission? I have to believe I am not the only throwback on the planet that would be thrilled to purchase a simple SR5 4runner with basic A/C and stereo and a manual transmission in a 4wd SUV.

Let me know where to and how many goats or chickens or Sasquatches must be sacrificed to the Toyota Gods to make this happen.

Thanks. Steve

 

[Mad Ghost]

its available on the taco so.... just get an sr5 and swap the parts over

 

[Nodak]

you do realize the manuals are detuned vs the auto's, yes it very slight but it is.

also didnt someone/something said that the manuals are right at the limit for max torque threshold vs the auto's have a bigger torque max limit?

 

[Dead Horse]

you do realize the manuals are detuned vs the auto's, yes it very slight but it is.

also didnt someone/something said that the manuals are right at the limit for max torque threshold vs the auto's have a bigger torque max limit?

I've read/heard that too. My personal take on that is...That came from a Toyota Engineer. Their approach to things like that is with an eye to durability and longevity. I've slapped heads, cam, headers, and supercharger on a car and had it over 700 hp on a transmission and clutch that were originally designed for just over half that. It lived just fine for a year until I had my new clutch on the shelf and I started doing no-lift shifts between 3-4 at 100MPH...Then it burned up the factory clutch. Put the Monster clutch in, and ran it for 10 years on the factory trans. That car ran like a scalded cat until the day I sold it. That was a couple of years ago, and the guy that bought it still runs it hard and it hasn't broke yet.

So yeah. You're leaving 10-20 hp (whatever the number was, it was small) on the table, but I'd bet a sizable sum on whether or not anybody's butt-dyno could reliably tell a difference in 20 crank hp on a 5k lb SUV. Hell, in the Taco, the 0-60 times on the hybrid vs the non-hybrid belie the almost 50 hp (to say nothing of the torque) delta between them. I seriously doubt it would harm the reliability of the trans either. But they always play it super safe.

It would be really cool if they did offer a stripped down 4Runner with a manual and some crank windows. I wouldn't buy it, but it would cool LOL