Thanks for sharing!
Just curious, why do you think they will NOT be flying outa showrooms but yet you plan to buy one. Are you saying you like it, the 6th gen, but not that much and if you can wait and save $1-$2K, you will do that? Again, just curious to your thoughts. Myself, I am thinking they will be flying out of the showroom but I may be under the spell of confirmation bias, meaning, I like them so I think many people like them and will be snatching them up quickly. I could be wrong of course.
I think both statements are accurate, in that the 4R will be in short supply early on, so there aren't likely to be deals to be had. Once the supply of them increases, hopefully soon, my bet is you may be able to haggle a bit. Personally, I'm in the market now to replace my '18 Rubicon, and I'm willing to pay MSRP for a new 4R. But I'm not willing to accept a mark up.
Well Said Ike582, I think you perfectly summarized my thoughts on the matter. And Visually Oriented, you can be right as well, perhaps in 9 months haggling will be possible. I get it.
Same. We will see!
Yea Toyota issued this TSB (no recall) for the transmission issue:
I bought my 1997 Toyota 4Runner new from Longo Toyota and it is still my daily driver. I plan I buying a new 2025 from them even though there are many Toyota dealers close to me. They were easy to work with back in the 90's and I decided to stick with them again for my new 4Runner.
I tried to place an order with Longo, but was told that they would not sell to a out of stater.
The issue arises when casting sand from the torque converter (TC) is not completely flushed out during manufacturing. These particles can lodge themselves into the shift solenoids, leading to the problem. This is why both the TC and the transmission are replaced. However, specific diagnostic codes must be triggered for the transmission to qualify for replacement. If these codes are not present, the issue is addressed differently—or, more accurately, not addressed at all.
I live in the area so that is good for us locals. I was put on a Longo wait list because I was a prior 4Runner customer and that I have had a very long ownership of my 4Runner which is 29 years as my daily driver. I can understand a dealer not wanting to sell out of state. There is a high demand for local customers. Local customers brings in more money for the service department too. My 4Runner needed very little service.
