Getting rid of dealer installed vehicle's tracker

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It also looks like your OBD port is black, should be white.


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Does this mean I’m safe from the all-seeing eye?

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[oregonalex]

Does this mean I’m safe from the all-seeing eye?

Alas, no. You are only safe from an OBD2 piggy-back installation. The bug could still be spliced directly into the vehicle wiring.

 

[NotApplicable]

Alas, no. You are only safe from an OBD2 piggy-back installation. The bug could still be spliced directly into the vehicle wiring.

New fear unlocked

 

[morsk]

I had no idea that this was a thing.
I just checked my SR5 really quick and I have a black ODB-II, so I probably have this up there.

I only took a quick peek as it's dark now, but I didn't immediately see a unit like in the video. I'll take another look tomorrow, but it would be helpful if anybody can share their findings on their specific 4Runners and if the tracking unit is the same.

I just picked up my 4R yesterday, paid cash, and I am considering calling/emailing them and ask that they remove this ASAP.

 

[mfoga]

I hope none of you have the ultimate tracking device in your pocket, purse, ect...

 

[RunnerRocks]

I tried to get under that dash to find that tracker but I’m too fat and old to bend that much. Will have to go to a stereo and alarm, shop to have them, remove it, but I did come across something else why I was under there. I have a suspicious button right next to my hood release. I’ll show a photo.

That "button" is part of the tracker. Had one just like it installed on our new special order 2020 Ford Ranger after the dealer agreed not to install anything. Had the dealer remove it and replace the damaged panel. Also, gave us a bunch of Ford points.

There's a small box up under the dash with wires spliced into harnesses.

 

[NotApplicable]

That "button" is part of the tracker. Had one just like it installed on our new special order 2020 Ford Ranger after the dealer agreed not to install anything. Had the dealer remove it and replace the damaged panel. Also, gave us a bunch of Ford points.

There's a small box up under the dash with wires spliced into harnesses.

So wait, why do they do this? And do they charge you for some sort of LoJack service or similar?

 

[morsk]

I had no idea that this was a thing.
I just checked my SR5 really quick and I have a black ODB-II, so I probably have this up there.

I only took a quick peek as it's dark now, but I didn't immediately see a unit like in the video. I'll take another look tomorrow, but it would be helpful if anybody can share their findings on their specific 4Runners and if the tracking unit is the same.

I just picked up my 4R yesterday, paid cash, and I am considering calling/emailing them and ask that they remove this ASAP.

Well, I emailed my rep and they confirmed that they did not install a tracker on my vehicle. Without messing around down there, I followed the OBD-II cable as far back as I could and it was all one long continuous wire so I feel a little better that I may not have one. Maybe I'll do a more thorough inspection later, but I may be OK

 

[NotApplicable]

Well, I emailed my rep and they confirmed that they did not install a tracker on my vehicle. Without messing around down there, I followed the OBD-II cable as far back as I could and it was all one long continuous wire so I feel a little better that I may not have one. Maybe I'll do a more thorough inspection later, but I may be OK

Maybe there are 2 suppliers for the OBD-II jacks? Mine is very white.

 

[KD2MYW]

and this has nothing to do with the built-in gps and maps? Between that and the flock cameras we are really be watched.

 

[127.0.0.1]

So wait, why do they do this? And do they charge you for some sort of LoJack service or similar?

-it could be a dealer markup add-on so they
charge you 800 for a 20 dollar jojack/alarm device
-it could be added security system to keep dealer from losing new cars off the lot
-it could be a repossession tracker if you set up a payment plan

whatever it is, it's horseshit if anything is installed on a -pre-titled- new vehicle

 

[127.0.0.1]

and this has nothing to do with the built-in gps and maps? Between that and the flock cameras we are really be watched.

I wanna say something about these flock cameras

in general yes it's horseshit to be over-surveilled all day and night,
dystopian 1984/THX1138/Logans Run style

But....I saw a video summary of a police work...
cops pulled over someone brandishing....and he killed the cop

so now cop killer was being chased by police and
ended up getting away. the next day Flock cameras alerted on his vehicle and
the cops were able to get that guy within 24 hours of him murdering a cop,
and the flock cameras were key.

so...if there is a cop killer loose people whine WHY CAN'T they find this guy and
he goes to murder more people...OH yeah a month ago we took down all the
flock cameras

so...there's that. I think the dystopian aspect is mostly paranoia driven by people
who only exist to make someone else angry about something, and flocks are
a good target for discussion. if you aren't a crook or a murdering bastard no
one is gonna care about you, flock or no flock. but then again if flock is everywhere
and someone in power has a grudge against you they have access, they may use the data for illegal harm or action towards you or your enterprise.


so....it's great if used for good, and bad if used for harm. it's mere existence is a problem
either way

 

[NotApplicable]

I wanna say something about these flock cameras

in general yes it's horseshit to be over-surveilled all day and night,
dystopian 1984/THX1138/Logans Run style

But....I saw a video summary of a police work...
cops pulled over someone brandishing....and he killed the cop

so now cop killer was being chased by police and
ended up getting away. the next day Flock cameras alerted on his vehicle and
the cops were able to get that guy within 24 hours of him murdering a cop,
and the flock cameras were key.

so...if there is a cop killer loose people whine WHY CAN'T they find this guy and
he goes to murder more people...OH yeah a month ago we took down all the
flock cameras

so...there's that. I think the dystopian aspect is mostly paranoia driven by people
who only exist to make someone else angry about something, and flocks are
a good target for discussion. if you aren't a crook or a murdering bastard no
one is gonna care about you, flock or no flock. but then again if flock is everywhere
and someone in power has a grudge against you they have access, they may use the data for illegal harm or action towards you or your enterprise.


so....it's great if used for good, and bad if used for harm. it's mere existence is a problem
either way

This is gonna devolve into a tangential debate but the obvious response to this is that domestic surveillance to help catching one bad guy quicker isn’t worth the cost of degrading thousands, tens of thousands, more peoples’ privacy

 

[a_double]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

 

[127.0.0.1]

This is gonna devolve into a tangential debate but the obvious response to this is that domestic surveillance to help catching one bad guy quicker isn’t worth the cost of degrading thousands, tens of thousands, more peoples’ privacy

I tend to agree with this as 'murdering bastards running amok' is super rare

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