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So ...you'll be leaving this 6th gen forum and going to the other 4Runner forum and commiserate with them about the price of the 6th gen? Look at it this way you, will spend less money and have two more cylinders than all of us on this 6th gen forum. You are winning. Congrats.

"Vilius vel nihil est quod vili datur."
 
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toyomoLC said:
Finally have honed in on 2 offers from area dealers for new 2025 6th Gen TRD ORP 4Rs, both on allocation in build stage. Neither is my preferred color but I could live with either, though at the asking prices I want to have all my choices.
Weā€™ve bought Toyotas from both dealers before, both offers started with ā€˜market adjustmentā€™ markups. One dropped it completely early on - ā€œyouā€™re our customerā€ blah blah - the other has offered to do so, weā€™ll see next week.

Both agreed to let me define which options I want and which planned ones come off the list. The inflated ā€˜document feesā€™ $700-$1000 may remain. Theyā€™re fairly stubborn about those IME.

I see the combination of significant Toyota USA corporate price increases and dealersā€™ attempts to ā€œmake hay while the sun shines,ā€ as a deliberate strategy to turn the demographic page on 4Runner buyers. IMHO theyā€™re trying to move away from historically brand-loyal older ā€˜baby boomerā€™ buyers - ā€˜weā€™ve got them hooked, theyā€™ll keep buying short termā€™ - to younger buyers who value on-road flash and looks over capabilities.
In my case, whatever 4R we buy next will be our 11th Toyota or Lexus product in the last 30 years. However, Iā€™ve decided I wonā€™t spend the inflated 6th Gen prices and reward behavior I donā€™t support on Toyota Corp or its dealersā€™ part.
Iā€™m now very close to a deal on 1 of 2 5th Gen 4Rs TRD ORPs in my area, a low mileage 2023 and same in a 2024. Weā€™re close on bottomline OTD price, so weā€™ll see how it goes.
My final conclusion is that Toyota has priced me out of the 6th Gen 4R market and doesnā€™t care because theyā€™ve made a different market segment choice. I can live with that though I donā€™t like it and it has left a sour taste in my mouth. Iā€™m not an important guy or YouTube influencer, but each one of us has a circle of influence.
Both of my adult kids drive 5th Gen 4Rs, my wife drives a 3rd Gen Tacoma TRD ORP and I have a couple of Toys.
Weā€™ve all been involved in the quest for my next 4R and it hasnā€™t sat well with any of us. My kids reflect Toyotaā€™s new generation demographic. Weā€™ll see how it turns out.
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Car prices in general have increased 25% since 2019. I feel your pain...being a loyal Toyota buyer and a Boomer, but it's across the market I'm afraid.
 
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Spending more doesnā€™t always get you more value, Latin notwithstanding.

I have no intention of leaving 6th gen forum, nor of persuading anyone to my thinking, nor arguing for my POV. I merely express my opinion and assessment of the 4Runner market. These observations are based on information Iā€™ve seen, heard and personally experienced. To each, his own, however.
 

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toyomoLC said:
Spending more doesnā€™t always get you more value, Latin notwithstanding.

I have no intention of leaving 6th gen forum, nor of persuading anyone to my thinking, nor arguing for my POV. I merely express my opinion and assessment of the 4Runner market. These observations are based on information Iā€™ve seen, heard and personally experienced. To each, his own, however.
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But in this particular scenario, spending more definitely would get you much more, but, to each his own.
 
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for anyone that cares, here are all the dealers doing markups on 4R's, some are up to 10k markups

list is sorted by state then dealer name (look at markup column)

also 2 dealers standout as listing all 4R's with a discount, durango toyota of colorado (-500) and team toyota of ohio (-4728)


ModelColorBase MSRPTotal MSRPSelling PriceMarkupDealerDealer State
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDEverest519905585956158299Kendall Toyota of AnchorageAK
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDBlack519905672457023299Kendall Toyota of AnchorageAK
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDEverest519905585956158299Kendall Toyota of AnchorageAK
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDBlack519905672457023299Kendall Toyota of AnchorageAK
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199058386597261340Toyota of DothanAL
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199058386597261340Toyota of DothanAL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap669007032371318995Anderson ToyotaAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap519905537956374995Anderson ToyotaAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDCutting Edge577706036461359995Anderson ToyotaAZ
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap669007032371318995Anderson ToyotaAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap519905537956374995Anderson ToyotaAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDCutting Edge577706036461359995Anderson ToyotaAZ
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath669007253873137599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap519905476955368599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground669006949470093599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDSupersonic Red577706293463533599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDCutting Edge519905735957958599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDEverest519905719957798599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath669007253873137599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap519905476955368599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground669006949470093599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDSupersonic Red577706293463533599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDCutting Edge519905735957958599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDEverest519905719957798599AutoNation Toyota TempeAZ
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDBlack6690071993798617868Bell Road ToyotaAZ
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDBlack6690071993798617868Bell Road ToyotaAZ
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020063654691445490Berge ToyotaAZ
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020063654691445490Berge ToyotaAZ
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690069734720292295Desert Toyota of TucsonAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199054539568342295Desert Toyota of TucsonAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue5777061305636002295Desert Toyota of TucsonAZ
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690070447727422295Desert Toyota of TucsonAZ
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690069734720292295Desert Toyota of TucsonAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199054539568342295Desert Toyota of TucsonAZ
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue5777061305636002295Desert Toyota of TucsonAZ
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690070447727422295Desert Toyota of TucsonAZ
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690068625699201295Auburn ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690068625699201295Auburn ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690069170735684398AutoNation Toyota CerritosCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020064489688874398AutoNation Toyota CerritosCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690069170735684398AutoNation Toyota CerritosCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020064489688874398AutoNation Toyota CerritosCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground519905583356228395Blackstone Toyota of FresnoCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue577706139961794395Blackstone Toyota of FresnoCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground669007029970694395Blackstone Toyota of FresnoCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground519905583356228395Blackstone Toyota of FresnoCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue577706139961794395Blackstone Toyota of FresnoCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground669007029970694395Blackstone Toyota of FresnoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063329653241995Cabe Toyota Long BeachCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063329653241995Cabe Toyota Long BeachCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690071200765585358City ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690069295746535358City ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap5199054930602885358City ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690071200765585358City ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690069295746535358City ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap5199054930602885358City ToyotaCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6286067514718094295Claremont ToyotaCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDCutting Edge6286066479707744295Claremont ToyotaCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6286067514718094295Claremont ToyotaCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDCutting Edge6286066479707744295Claremont ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063675651751500Crown ToyotaCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDHeritage Blue6286067074685741500Crown ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690068905704051500Crown ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063675651751500Crown ToyotaCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDHeritage Blue6286067074685741500Crown ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690068905704051500Crown ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690069974735593585Dalton Toyota National CityCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue5777062269658543585Dalton Toyota National CityCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020064738683233585Dalton Toyota National CityCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690069974735593585Dalton Toyota National CityCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue5777062269658543585Dalton Toyota National CityCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020064738683233585Dalton Toyota National CityCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDIce Cap5777061389681826793DCH Toyota of OxnardCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690069278760716793DCH Toyota of OxnardCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDIce Cap5777061389681826793DCH Toyota of OxnardCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690069278760716793DCH Toyota of OxnardCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020063504680044500DCH Toyota of TorranceCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020063504680044500DCH Toyota of TorranceCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690071296729991703Downtown Toyota of OaklandCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690071296729991703Downtown Toyota of OaklandCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue577706239463390996Envision Toyota of MilpitasCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue577706239463390996Envision Toyota of MilpitasCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063499659932494Envision Toyota of West CovinaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063499659932494Envision Toyota of West CovinaCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDIce Cap5777062704686895985Frontier ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDIce Cap5777062704686895985Frontier ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690068785757756990Hanlees Fairfield ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDEverest577706044461439995Hanlees Fairfield ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap6690070770787657995Hanlees Fairfield ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690068785757756990Hanlees Fairfield ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDEverest577706044461439995Hanlees Fairfield ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap6690070770787657995Hanlees Fairfield ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069415744155000Jimmy Vasser ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDCutting Edge5777062394673945000Jimmy Vasser ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069415744155000Jimmy Vasser ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDCutting Edge5777062394673945000Jimmy Vasser ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020063504685045000Marina del Rey ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020063504685045000Marina del Rey ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690070247733643117Norm Reeves Toyota San DiegoCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDUnderground5777064014671313117Norm Reeves Toyota San DiegoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020065163682803117Norm Reeves Toyota San DiegoCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690070247733643117Norm Reeves Toyota San DiegoCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDUnderground5777064014671313117Norm Reeves Toyota San DiegoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020065163682803117Norm Reeves Toyota San DiegoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020063605650951490Northridge ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020063605650951490Northridge ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690072351763463995One Toyota of OaklandCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690072351763463995One Toyota of OaklandCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063379656692290Puente Hills ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063379656692290Puente Hills ToyotaCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDCutting Edge6286066534715294995Roseville ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap6690070079750744995Roseville ToyotaCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDCutting Edge6286066534715294995Roseville ToyotaCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap6690070079750744995Roseville ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690070921798018880Santa Margarita ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020063768716487880Santa Margarita ToyotaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690070921798018880Santa Margarita ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020063768716487880Santa Margarita ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020063824678143990Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDUnderground6286067024755198495Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690068880773758495Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690069853783488495Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDBlack6690069725782208495Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020063824678143990Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDUnderground6286067024755198495Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690068880773758495Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDIce Cap6690069853783488495Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDBlack6690069725782208495Toyota CarlsbadCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue5777061069643593290Toyota MarinCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDHeritage Blue5777061069643593290Toyota MarinCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDHeritage Blue5199055050580452995Toyota of BerkeleyCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDHeritage Blue5199055050580452995Toyota of BerkeleyCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069594723892795Toyota of ClovisCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069594723892795Toyota of ClovisCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDEverest5777062093678735780Toyota of El CajonCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDEverest5777062093678735780Toyota of El CajonCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690070307773026995Toyota of EscondidoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020064674666691995Toyota of EscondidoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020065358673531995Toyota of EscondidoCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690070307773026995Toyota of EscondidoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020064674666691995Toyota of EscondidoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020065358673531995Toyota of EscondidoCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDCutting Edge5777062704657893085Toyota of GlendaleCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690068915720003085Toyota of GlendaleCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDCutting Edge5777062704657893085Toyota of GlendaleCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690068915720003085Toyota of GlendaleCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6286067309723044995Toyota of OrangeCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069968749634995Toyota of OrangeCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063569685644995Toyota of OrangeCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690068815738104995Toyota of OrangeCA
4Runner Platinum FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6286067309723044995Toyota of OrangeCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069968749634995Toyota of OrangeCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020063569685644995Toyota of OrangeCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690068815738104995Toyota of OrangeCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground602006299463989995Toyota of RidgecrestCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground602006299463989995Toyota of RidgecrestCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690069284757596475Toyota of San BernardinoCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690069284757596475Toyota of San BernardinoCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690069179741795000Toyota of Santa MariaCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690069179741795000Toyota of Santa MariaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020063624651181494Toyota San Luis ObispoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020063624651181494Toyota San Luis ObispoCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap519905403955034995Toyota TownCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath669007415575150995Toyota TownCA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap519905403955034995Toyota TownCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath669007415575150995Toyota TownCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020064263684564193United ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDUnderground6020064263684564193United ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020062990669323942Valley Hi ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020062990669323942Valley Hi ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020062990669323942Valley Hi ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDBlack6020062990669323942Valley Hi ToyotaCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020066579720675488Victory Toyota of San BrunoCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069360750985738Victory Toyota of San BrunoCA
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020066579720675488Victory Toyota of San BrunoCA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069360750985738Victory Toyota of San BrunoCA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDBlack6690071903774025499Corwin Toyota BoulderCO
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690072298777975499Corwin Toyota BoulderCO
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDBlack6690071903774025499Corwin Toyota BoulderCO
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690072298777975499Corwin Toyota BoulderCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199054469561591690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690069708713981690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDUnderground5777061874635641690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199053710554001690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690070538722281690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690070238719281690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199053625553151690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDUnderground5777060134618241690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199054084557741690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199054254559441690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199054469561591690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690069708713981690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDUnderground5777061874635641690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199053710554001690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690070538722281690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690070238719281690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199053625553151690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDUnderground5777060134618241690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199054084557741690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDUnderground5199054254559441690Corwin Toyota Colorado SpringsCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDCutting Edge519905567455174-500Durango ToyotaCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDHeritage Blue519905613955639-500Durango ToyotaCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDCutting Edge577706161961119-500Durango ToyotaCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDCutting Edge519905567455174-500Durango ToyotaCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDHeritage Blue519905613955639-500Durango ToyotaCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDCutting Edge577706161961119-500Durango ToyotaCO
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690070287715821295McDonald Toyota of Fort MorganCO
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDUnderground6690070287715821295McDonald Toyota of Fort MorganCO
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDBlack577706389564194299Mike Erdman ToyotaFL
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDBlack577706389564194299Mike Erdman ToyotaFL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDUnderground6690071619755973978Toyota of MelbourneFL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDUnderground6690071619755973978Toyota of MelbourneFL
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap5199058594607892195Thomasville ToyotaGA
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap5199058594607892195Thomasville ToyotaGA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack669007081371593780Walker-Jones ToyotaGA
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack669007081371593780Walker-Jones ToyotaGA
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap6690071127761275000Chicago Northside ToyotaIL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap6690071127761275000Chicago Northside ToyotaIL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap6690071323725681245Newbold ToyotaIL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDIce Cap6690071323725681245Newbold ToyotaIL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDBlack6690070578755785000Romeoville ToyotaIL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDBlack6690070578755785000Romeoville ToyotaIL
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020062934669283994Schaumburg ToyotaIL
4Runner Limited FT4WDWind Chill Pearl6020062934669283994Schaumburg ToyotaIL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690069435744355000Toyota of BourbonnaisIL
4Runner TRD Pro PT4WDMudbath6690069435744355000Toyota of BourbonnaisIL
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDHeritage Blue5199055529575292000Beck ToyotaIN
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069594715942000Beck ToyotaIN
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDHeritage Blue5199055529575292000Beck ToyotaIN
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDEverest6690069594715942000Beck ToyotaIN
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690069418764136995Walters ToyotaKY
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690069418764136995Walters ToyotaKY
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDUnderground5777061554645492995Bayside ToyotaMD
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690069385743804995Bayside ToyotaMD
4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium PT4WDUnderground5777061554645492995Bayside ToyotaMD
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack6690069385743804995Bayside ToyotaMD
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap519905465455652998Berlin City Toyota of PortlandME
4Runner Trailhunter PT4WDBlack669006930470302998Berlin City Toyota of PortlandME
4Runner TRD Off-Road PT4WDIce Cap519905465455652998Berlin City Toyota of PortlandME
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ā€¦ and a go anywhere truck you could fix in the bush with a few basic tools. Try that with a 6th Gen hybrid space capsule.
Thatā€™s the reason my friends in Zimbabwe use BJ79s.
Neither here nor there just different evolutionary branches and Bidenomics effect for the USA market.
 

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toyomoLC said:
ā€¦ and a go anywhere truck you could fix in the bush with a few basic tools. Try that with a 6th Gen hybrid space capsule.
Thatā€™s the reason my friends in Zimbabwe use BJ79s.
Neither here nor there just different evolutionary branches and Bidenomics effect for the USA market.
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Sure, very different world there.

I just came back from a month in South Africa where I had a 2.8 GD6 Toyota Fortuner rental.

I'm well aware of what Toyota withholds from the North American market, and is primarily why I'd never buy a 3rd gen Tacoma or 5th gen 4Runner when living at altitude in Colorado.

Those V6s, which may be reliable, are utter dogs and are quite simply CAFE/emissions compromise choices in a product sense compared to the wonderful GD6 turbo diesels found in RoW.

Coming back to the states, that Fortuner felt positively ancient compared to my parents X5!



In the USA you're not dealing with a village blacksmith welding up your tattered frame or suspension after over landing from Djibouti to Cape Town. This is exactly where you want a piece of agricultural machinery like an LC79.

Toyota is very aware of the fact that most Tacomas and 4Runners are mall crawlers, and live comfortable lives with very occasional gravel use. ;)
 
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Since I was the OP and have now closed on my 4Runner deaI, thought Iā€™d close the loop.

Both of the 6th Gen dealers removed the market adjustment and agreed to let me specify which options I wanted for a build phase allocation 4R.

I continued to look for a low mileage 5th Gen TRD ORP. I bought a5th Gen which suited my needs well. Traded the Signia and some cash and like the TRD ORP better. Not the high tech platform but I got a good taste of that with the Signia. Great on the pavement but more than I needed.

At the end of the day I decided that the price differential between the comparable trim 5th & 6th Gen didnā€™t fit into my value proposition. In happy with my choice.

BTW Iā€™m not allergic to new modern tech. If I ever decide I want new tech, my choice would be a 2024 GX550. A few upgrades - probably proper tires - would be my priority. The replacement of the hydraulic KDSS with the new eKDSS seems to address the problems of the former while retaining its advantage.

Just my $0.02, which in todays devalued $ economy is probably worth nothing.
 
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I clicked on a couple 5th gen on marketplace. Iā€™m shocked at the resale value! Is this normal for Toyotas? I clicked on a limited first for $55K CAD. But everything 2020+ with 60-80K (say 40-60mi) is $50K+. I had to compare the first one Iā€™d found, a 2022. It was ā€™onlyā€™ $57K new!

Now I grant here a 6th gen Limited is now a $72K car, so thereā€™s some element of our current inflationary economy coming into play. But still, the idea that you could drive a car for 3-4 years & still sell it for almost what you paid?! Is it because the 5th gen is seen as the last of the old school 4Rā€™s? Or a reflection of our current odd economy where a new one might be months away yet a used one is available now? Or is it simply that Toyotas have the most linear depreciation of any car on the planet?
 
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