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Almost 4 grand in unselected and unskippable trash add ons from the port and the dealer.

This is why Toyota hasn't gotten me to buy a new vehicle from them in years. It just keeps getting worse and they don't care. My last couple were new, but I'll 100% go back to buying used because of this.
 

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Dealers do have some say on what PIO get added to their allocations. In early 2022, my brother wanted to buy a Highlander. They looked at the allocations and found the trim and color he wanted. It was early enough that they were able to drop the nonsense PIO and added a hitch for him. It was all done at the "port". Most dealers don't care enough to change them, though. The nonsense PIOs add profit and it is more than the bare minimum work. They want that profit and if you don't buy it, someone else will.
What does it really mean "done at the port"? Toyota has full service garages at every port to install accessories?
 

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What does it really mean "done at the port"? Toyota has full service garages at every port to install accessories?
Yep. The 5th gen 4Runner Pros arrived to port with steel wheels and standard suspension. Steelies and stock bits are scrapped and the pro wheels, fox suspension, and a few other things get added once the vehicle is on this side of the planet.
 

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I’ll be honest. The closer the 6th Gens get to hitting dealer lots, the more smitten and sentimental I get with my fully paid for 5th Gen. It’s technically my daily, but I really only drive it to the Airport and back once a week for work and that’s about it. I’m going to be patient and wait until at least this time next year and let the inventories build up the hype die down just like with what happened with the Gen 4 Tacomas. I want a deal, and my Gen 5 really is a great vehicle. Everything I need and nothing I don’t. If you have to have one of the first to hit the US, then by all means have at it, but you are probably going to pay at least MSRP and depending on the trim, possibly more. If you’re patient however, there will be much better deals by this time next year. For now though I’m on team wait.
 

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That’s my understanding. I’m not a video guy, but enjoyed seeing this one on how it’s done.
Thank you! I had no idea! I thought they were shipped directly from Japan to dealers!
 
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Thank you! I had no idea! I thought they were shipped directly from Japan to dealers!
No prob! That’s what I thought too. I’m assuming the reasoning has to do with possibly damaging wheels or something in ship shipping. Otherwise I can’t see it makes sense to have stuff installed over here in what looks more like a big aftermarket shop than an assembly line.
 

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I hear ya, but there was $3,800 of port installed options and dealer installed options on that TN Vols price sheet for his SR5. I doubt he wanted all that, but the dealer has the power on the initial release. But the consumer will get more of the power as time progresses. Am I going to be disciplined enough to wait awhile when the first Platinum's are allocated? I don't know.
Scarcity effects the monetary value individuals place on goods and services.

The consumer/buyer, not the dealer, actually has all the power since they decide when to spend their money. If they do not want the add-ons, they don't buy the vehicle.

Discipline, as you stated, is the key. I could be wrong, but I think as soon as these vehicles start hitting the streets, the demand will increase.
 

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That’s my understanding. I’m not a video guy, but enjoyed seeing this one on how it’s done.
Thank you for posting this. It gave a lot of great information.
I do have some questions:
Do the Canadian and US bound vehicles use the same US based PPO facilities?
If not, where are the ones meant for US bound 4Runners?

For the US West coast, what port of entry gets used for US bound 4Runners?
Thank you.
 

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Let me fix this - "Perceived scarcity" would be a better term. OEM's and dealers learned that if they can give the illusion there's always supply chain issues, they can keep their prices elevated for those impatient buyers willing to pay any ADM you throw at them to be the first in line. While foolish and a waste of money, it happens.

I also learned this from an industry source. They are very aware of what they are doing and dealers still today will cite "supply chain issues". Patience and a little bit of work always pays off in the end.
Conspiracy Theory. OMG. You guys are running wild now.
 
 




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