6th Gen + Snow = Amazing

[AZTrail]

Yeah I would never even consider needing or putting on snow chains.

What tires do you have?

 

[willb]

What tires do you have?

Just the stock 265/70R18 that come on all ORP trims?

 

[jdgreen]

I guess i'm confused (not having ever hard all-time 4x4)....why the issue? You can engage/disengage it on the fly at speed so essentially the only difference is turning a nob when you need it, and leaving it off when you don't.

There's more difference than just turning a knob. With full-time 4WD, if any wheel begins to slip, torque is redirected from there to wheels with traction. With part-time, if one front AND one rear wheel are off the ground (as when crossing a diagonal gully) or if those wheels are on very slippery spots with no momentum, you might be stuck unless the locker is engaged. Not the case with full-time; if even one wheel has good traction, it keeps on moving. The TFL Off-Road You Tube channel demonstrates this by putting various combinations of wheels on rollers to simulate low-traction situations. I don't have my 4R yet; can someone educate me? In 4L will MTS or crawl control re-direct torque? It appears that A-trac has been removed from the 6G.

Our Jeeps have been my wife's cars as the 4R will be. When it's slippery here in Northern MN I don't worry when she drives to town. The Tacomas we've owned didn't give me that confidence. Training her to engage 4WD on the 4R will be easy; if she can't get going, she'll remember to engage. But will she remember to disengage when the road is dry?????

 

[zesh]

The 2025 4Runner Owner's Manual states that you should only shift between 2H to 4H or 4H to 2H when your speed is less than 62 mph.

I was expecting slower. That’s great.

 

[dirtwheeler]

Did

What tires did you have? Were they 4 peak snow rated? Most of the tires Toyota puts on the new 4Runner are not snow rated and Toyota also says you can't put snow chains on tire size 265/70R18 which is the standard size for the OR and ORP.

Is that in the manual? I don't remember tripping across any recommendations related to chains, but I will look for this later

 

[AZTrail]

Did
Is that in the manual? I don't remember tripping across any recommendations related to chains, but I will look for this later

Below is the page from the 2025 4Runner Owner's Manual with the information about not using tire chains on 265/70R18 tires which is the OEM size for the OR, ORP, Trail Hunter and Pro. The ORP is delivered with Falken Wildpeak A/T3W A 265/70R18 SL tires which do not have the 4 peak snow rating and the SL load rating is for Standard Load with no extra reinforcement, thus not a reliable off-road tire. What is needed is the BFG KO3 LT265/70R18 with a C load rating. Proven very tough for off-roading, 4 peak snow rating, and great reviews. BFG has this size with a very stiff E load rating. Sometime in 2026 BFG plans to release this size with a D load rating. Their schedule for releasing more tire sizes/ratings does not include this size with a C rating which would provide a less jarring ride than the E and D load ratings. We need to get lots of people to get BFG to add the 265/70R18 Load rating C tire to their plans for the KO3.

 

[AZTrail]

There's more difference than just turning a knob. With full-time 4WD, if any wheel begins to slip, torque is redirected from there to wheels with traction. With part-time, if one front AND one rear wheel are off the ground (as when crossing a diagonal gully) or if those wheels are on very slippery spots with no momentum, you might be stuck unless the locker is engaged. Not the case with full-time; if even one wheel has good traction, it keeps on moving. The TFL Off-Road You Tube channel demonstrates this by putting various combinations of wheels on rollers to simulate low-traction situations. I don't have my 4R yet; can someone educate me? In 4L will MTS or crawl control re-direct torque? It appears that A-trac has been removed from the 6G.

Our Jeeps have been my wife's cars as the 4R will be. When it's slippery here in Northern MN I don't worry when she drives to town. The Tacomas we've owned didn't give me that confidence. Training her to engage 4WD on the 4R will be easy; if she can't get going, she'll remember to engage. But will she remember to disengage when the road is dry?????

Sounds like you need the 4Runner Limited that allows you to select full-time 4WD.

 

[dirtwheeler]

Below is the page from the 2025 4Runner Owner's Manual with the information about not using tire chains on 265/70R18 tires which is the OEM size for the OR, ORP, Trail Hunter and Pro. The ORP is delivered with Falken Wildpeak A/T3W A 265/70R18 SL tires which do not have the 4 peak snow rating and the SL load rating is for Standard Load with no extra reinforcement, thus not a reliable off-road tire. What is needed is the BFG KO3 LT265/70R18 with a C load rating. Proven very tough for off-roading, 4 peak snow rating, and great reviews. BFG has this size with a very stiff E load rating. Sometime in 2026 BFG plans to release this size with a D load rating. Their schedule for releasing more tire sizes/ratings does not include this size with a C rating which would provide a less jarring ride than the E and D load ratings. We need to get lots of people to get BFG to add the 265/70R18 Load rating C tire to their plans for the KO3.

Thanks. That's interesting. I don't think I've ever seen a stock vehicle not recommended chains. I've got a set of KO3s and a set of KM3s for my Jeep. I've been impressed with them in ice and snow. I'll put some freeway miles on the 4Runner stock tires this summer before I get new ones, but KO3s are probably what I'll get.