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That's partially due to the 8 speed transmission compared to the sluggish previous generation. I wish they went with the 10 speed as it would be even better.

Those seats and material look as consistently bad as all past Toyota's have. I was hoping for something better. That's unfortunate, but predictable coming from Toyota.

If they were slo-rolling out the excitement, they'd be doing this in California instead of TX, no?

What I was comparing was Toyota's "Legendary quality and reliability" I think I laid it out in my reply to Jucame63. and that point is not "apples and oranges" since it centers on the manufacturers overall reputation and not specific models. I have since decided not to purchase the 4runner and...

This is new 8 speed tranny, correct? Any more information on this issue? Perhaps this is what is causing delays with the 2025 4-Runners.

I like the mudbath color on the 4-Runner TRD Pro. I just hope we get to see some real world driving with this thing soon!

are there big differences betwen the Trail Hunter and TRD offorad 4-Runners?

I never accept so called "mandatory" add-ons. You don't need to either. The cost to a dealer is negligible, but they charge an outrageous amount to pad their profits. Yet another scam by dealers that has been ongoing for years.

The 4 cylinder will actually run better with the 8 speed tranny....I promise you. It's why I have a Ford at the moment.

is this a widespread issue with the 24 Tacos?