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Scarcity effects the monetary value individuals place on goods and services.

The consumer/buyer, not the dealer, actually has all the power since they decide when to spend their money. If they do not want the add-ons, they don't buy the vehicle.

Discipline, as you stated, is the key. I could be wrong, but I think as soon as these vehicles start hitting the streets, the demand will increase.
Let me fix this - "Perceived scarcity" would be a better term. OEM's and dealers learned that if they can give the illusion there's always supply chain issues, they can keep their prices elevated for those impatient buyers willing to pay any ADM you throw at them to be the first in line. While foolish and a waste of money, it happens.

I also learned this from an industry source. They are very aware of what they are doing and dealers still today will cite "supply chain issues". Patience and a little bit of work always pays off in the end.
 

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Let me fix this - "Perceived scarcity" would be a better term. OEM's and dealers learned that if they can give the illusion there's always supply chain issues, they can keep their prices elevated for those impatient buyers willing to pay any ADM you throw at them to be the first in line. While foolish and a waste of money, it happens.

I also learned this from an industry source. They are very aware of what they are doing and dealers still today will cite "supply chain issues". Patience and a little bit of work always pays off in the end.
Because if inventory continues to build up, it's only a matter of time before everyone catches on.
 

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Because if inventory continues to build up, it's only a matter of time before everyone catches on.
Inventory has been building and so has auto loan delinquencies and consumer debt ( $1.7 T). I'm in no rush whatsoever to test drive one. I have two vehicles at the moment that run just fine. :)
 
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Let me fix this - "Perceived scarcity" would be a better term. OEM's and dealers learned that if they can give the illusion there's always supply chain issues, they can keep their prices elevated for those impatient buyers willing to pay any ADM you throw at them to be the first in line. While foolish and a waste of money, it happens.

I also learned this from an industry source. They are very aware of what they are doing and dealers still today will cite "supply chain issues". Patience and a little bit of work always pays off in the end.
Conspiracy Theory. OMG. You guys are running wild now.
 

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Thank you for posting this. It gave a lot of great information.
I do have some questions:
Do the Canadian and US bound vehicles use the same US based PPO facilities?
If not, where are the ones meant for US bound 4Runners?

For the US West coast, what port of entry gets used for US bound 4Runners?
Thank you.
Assuming Long Beach. Not seeing any allocations in California.
 
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February 5, 2025 arrival date estimate is now the earliest we've seen -- this 2025 4Runner TRD Sport is scheduled to be deliveredto a Georgia dealer 2/5-2/10.

2025 4runner TRD Sport delivery.jpg
Anyone know why this price sheet has what normally are the DIO (dealer installed options) labelled as LIO? Is there a difference between DIO and LIO?
 

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Depends on how long we've been waiting I suppose lol.

I won't take the power running boards up north here. I've heard lots of complaints about how they jam with ice given the freeze/thaw we get in Calgary.

That said we're trading in an in great shape '16 Yaris so the bargaining will be on the trade in I figure.
My dealer said the power running boards can be locked in the out position. I asked him on Saturday. I hope he is correct.
 

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Exciting news! So, talk to me like I'm 5 years old and eating crayons because I'll be in this situation in the not-too-distant future. You've told your dealer that you want to be placed on a wait list for whatever trim (in TN Vols case an SR5 in Heritage Blue). The dealer responds and says, "We have your SR5. The total price after the port installed options, factory installed options, delivery fee etc... is $48,063."

So my question is.....are you in any position to negotiate? TN Vols....are you going to say, "I'll pay $46,000 for it.", or since you obviously want the rig badly do you just pay the $48,060 and be happy you have one of the first ones? Is there any room for negotiation when you have been on a waiting list? I know there probably isn't for a TRD Pro or Trailhunter, but what about the other trims? What about a Platinum?

Interested in everyone's opinion.
I agree with others. I am on a waitlist and I am guessing you cannot negotiate for a lower price if there is a waitlist. I asked my dealer if you could special order a car and his answer was no. I wanted the limited in a factory color I like and the Portobello interior. If the car does not come in the first allocation I will just have to wait until it comes in. I still am driving my 1997 4Runner Limited I bought new.
 
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I found a TRD Sport that's going to San Bernardino, CA.
The ETA is 1/20 - 2/3.
And to think, just a month or so ago, a few people with supposedly insider knowledge said these won't start delivering until May or June or something like that. I think it was mostly 5th gen lovers that hate the new 6th gen that was spewing that information.
 

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And to think, just a month or so ago, a few people with supposedly insider knowledge said these won't start delivering until May or June or something like that. I think it was mostly 5th gen lovers that hate the new 6th gen that was spewing that information.
To be honest, the more I look, the more I can't bear the aging 20-year-old 5th Gen platform... 🙂
 
 
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